When was the last time that Starman/Roadster was seen?
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Starman/Roadster (2018-017A, 43205) is a Falcon 9 2nd stage with a red sports car attached, in a heliocentric orbit in deep space.
It was tracked by telescopes for several weeks at least after launch and boost from LEO to it's orbit around the Sun.
You can see one of those telescope images of Roadster in deep space in the question Where might astrometric observations of the Roadster spacecraft be catalogued?.
Question: When was the last time that Roadster was seen, before it became to dim to observe?
Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!
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Starman/Roadster (2018-017A, 43205) is a Falcon 9 2nd stage with a red sports car attached, in a heliocentric orbit in deep space.
It was tracked by telescopes for several weeks at least after launch and boost from LEO to it's orbit around the Sun.
You can see one of those telescope images of Roadster in deep space in the question Where might astrometric observations of the Roadster spacecraft be catalogued?.
Question: When was the last time that Roadster was seen, before it became to dim to observe?
Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!
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Starman/Roadster (2018-017A, 43205) is a Falcon 9 2nd stage with a red sports car attached, in a heliocentric orbit in deep space.
It was tracked by telescopes for several weeks at least after launch and boost from LEO to it's orbit around the Sun.
You can see one of those telescope images of Roadster in deep space in the question Where might astrometric observations of the Roadster spacecraft be catalogued?.
Question: When was the last time that Roadster was seen, before it became to dim to observe?
Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!
deep-space tesla-roadster observation
Starman/Roadster (2018-017A, 43205) is a Falcon 9 2nd stage with a red sports car attached, in a heliocentric orbit in deep space.
It was tracked by telescopes for several weeks at least after launch and boost from LEO to it's orbit around the Sun.
You can see one of those telescope images of Roadster in deep space in the question Where might astrometric observations of the Roadster spacecraft be catalogued?.
Question: When was the last time that Roadster was seen, before it became to dim to observe?
Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!
deep-space tesla-roadster observation
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The latest measurements used by JPL Horizons to calculate its trajectory were reported on 3/27 as follows:
2018-Mar-27: Two reporting sites (J94 & K93) extend data arc one month.
That is the last update that is included on the site, and thus seems likely to be the last update.
Looking at the two mentioned observatories, neither of them has a public log of when they actually recorded the observation, but from the context, specifically "extend data arc one month", I believe it was within a few days of March 27.
Last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!" Where/how can we the block quote? Where is it quoted from?
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The notation was made on 27-Mar-2018 because that is the date that solution #10 was generated. There's no reason to assume that those to measurements were made on the same day. So there's no way to know if this answer is right or wrong. Thus the last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!"
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The statement indicates extending the data arc one month. The date might be off a day or two, but isn't likely off by much more then that.
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Using the information from this answer the last actual documented sighting of Roadster (2018-017A) that I can find is given in DASO circular 0567 on 2018/02/22.35017
Last observation that I can find documented is 22-Feb-2018.
While the other answer shows displays the date of an orbit solution, and in comments tries to link that to an estimated observation date, without any explanation of that, nor why it should be considered the last time Roadster was seen, at least my answer is sourced, which was stipulated in the original question for precisely this reason.
However, there is an explicit statement in Solution #10 of JPL's Horizons ephemeris for Roadster:
TRAJECTORY:
This trajectory is based on JPL solution #10, a fit to 364 ground-based
optical astrometric measurements spanning 2018 Feb 8.2 to March 19.1
Last observation that I can find mentioned but haven't found any documentation of is 19-Mar-2018.
So there should be a documented sighting around 2AM 19-Mar-2018 UTC reported somewhere! That doesn't mean it's the last, any observation after 27-Mar-2018 would not be documented in Solution #10, so this is not a good source for the answer. The dimming rate is slow enough that further observations are possible, just less likely.
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The latest measurements used by JPL Horizons to calculate its trajectory were reported on 3/27 as follows:
2018-Mar-27: Two reporting sites (J94 & K93) extend data arc one month.
That is the last update that is included on the site, and thus seems likely to be the last update.
Looking at the two mentioned observatories, neither of them has a public log of when they actually recorded the observation, but from the context, specifically "extend data arc one month", I believe it was within a few days of March 27.
Last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!" Where/how can we the block quote? Where is it quoted from?
â uhoh
yesterday
First sentence "used by Horizons". I added a link and JPL, but...
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
The notation was made on 27-Mar-2018 because that is the date that solution #10 was generated. There's no reason to assume that those to measurements were made on the same day. So there's no way to know if this answer is right or wrong. Thus the last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!"
â uhoh
yesterday
The statement indicates extending the data arc one month. The date might be off a day or two, but isn't likely off by much more then that.
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
i.stack.imgur.com/JWIbn.png
â uhoh
yesterday
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up vote
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The latest measurements used by JPL Horizons to calculate its trajectory were reported on 3/27 as follows:
2018-Mar-27: Two reporting sites (J94 & K93) extend data arc one month.
That is the last update that is included on the site, and thus seems likely to be the last update.
Looking at the two mentioned observatories, neither of them has a public log of when they actually recorded the observation, but from the context, specifically "extend data arc one month", I believe it was within a few days of March 27.
Last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!" Where/how can we the block quote? Where is it quoted from?
â uhoh
yesterday
First sentence "used by Horizons". I added a link and JPL, but...
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
The notation was made on 27-Mar-2018 because that is the date that solution #10 was generated. There's no reason to assume that those to measurements were made on the same day. So there's no way to know if this answer is right or wrong. Thus the last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!"
â uhoh
yesterday
The statement indicates extending the data arc one month. The date might be off a day or two, but isn't likely off by much more then that.
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
i.stack.imgur.com/JWIbn.png
â uhoh
yesterday
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up vote
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The latest measurements used by JPL Horizons to calculate its trajectory were reported on 3/27 as follows:
2018-Mar-27: Two reporting sites (J94 & K93) extend data arc one month.
That is the last update that is included on the site, and thus seems likely to be the last update.
Looking at the two mentioned observatories, neither of them has a public log of when they actually recorded the observation, but from the context, specifically "extend data arc one month", I believe it was within a few days of March 27.
The latest measurements used by JPL Horizons to calculate its trajectory were reported on 3/27 as follows:
2018-Mar-27: Two reporting sites (J94 & K93) extend data arc one month.
That is the last update that is included on the site, and thus seems likely to be the last update.
Looking at the two mentioned observatories, neither of them has a public log of when they actually recorded the observation, but from the context, specifically "extend data arc one month", I believe it was within a few days of March 27.
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Last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!" Where/how can we the block quote? Where is it quoted from?
â uhoh
yesterday
First sentence "used by Horizons". I added a link and JPL, but...
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
The notation was made on 27-Mar-2018 because that is the date that solution #10 was generated. There's no reason to assume that those to measurements were made on the same day. So there's no way to know if this answer is right or wrong. Thus the last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!"
â uhoh
yesterday
The statement indicates extending the data arc one month. The date might be off a day or two, but isn't likely off by much more then that.
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
i.stack.imgur.com/JWIbn.png
â uhoh
yesterday
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show 1 more comment
Last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!" Where/how can we the block quote? Where is it quoted from?
â uhoh
yesterday
First sentence "used by Horizons". I added a link and JPL, but...
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
The notation was made on 27-Mar-2018 because that is the date that solution #10 was generated. There's no reason to assume that those to measurements were made on the same day. So there's no way to know if this answer is right or wrong. Thus the last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!"
â uhoh
yesterday
The statement indicates extending the data arc one month. The date might be off a day or two, but isn't likely off by much more then that.
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
i.stack.imgur.com/JWIbn.png
â uhoh
yesterday
Last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!" Where/how can we the block quote? Where is it quoted from?
â uhoh
yesterday
Last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!" Where/how can we the block quote? Where is it quoted from?
â uhoh
yesterday
First sentence "used by Horizons". I added a link and JPL, but...
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
First sentence "used by Horizons". I added a link and JPL, but...
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
The notation was made on 27-Mar-2018 because that is the date that solution #10 was generated. There's no reason to assume that those to measurements were made on the same day. So there's no way to know if this answer is right or wrong. Thus the last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!"
â uhoh
yesterday
The notation was made on 27-Mar-2018 because that is the date that solution #10 was generated. There's no reason to assume that those to measurements were made on the same day. So there's no way to know if this answer is right or wrong. Thus the last sentence: "Don't forget to include a verifiable source for the date!"
â uhoh
yesterday
The statement indicates extending the data arc one month. The date might be off a day or two, but isn't likely off by much more then that.
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
The statement indicates extending the data arc one month. The date might be off a day or two, but isn't likely off by much more then that.
â PearsonArtPhotoâ¦
yesterday
i.stack.imgur.com/JWIbn.png
â uhoh
yesterday
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Using the information from this answer the last actual documented sighting of Roadster (2018-017A) that I can find is given in DASO circular 0567 on 2018/02/22.35017
Last observation that I can find documented is 22-Feb-2018.
While the other answer shows displays the date of an orbit solution, and in comments tries to link that to an estimated observation date, without any explanation of that, nor why it should be considered the last time Roadster was seen, at least my answer is sourced, which was stipulated in the original question for precisely this reason.
However, there is an explicit statement in Solution #10 of JPL's Horizons ephemeris for Roadster:
TRAJECTORY:
This trajectory is based on JPL solution #10, a fit to 364 ground-based
optical astrometric measurements spanning 2018 Feb 8.2 to March 19.1
Last observation that I can find mentioned but haven't found any documentation of is 19-Mar-2018.
So there should be a documented sighting around 2AM 19-Mar-2018 UTC reported somewhere! That doesn't mean it's the last, any observation after 27-Mar-2018 would not be documented in Solution #10, so this is not a good source for the answer. The dimming rate is slow enough that further observations are possible, just less likely.
Screen shots (click for full size):
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Using the information from this answer the last actual documented sighting of Roadster (2018-017A) that I can find is given in DASO circular 0567 on 2018/02/22.35017
Last observation that I can find documented is 22-Feb-2018.
While the other answer shows displays the date of an orbit solution, and in comments tries to link that to an estimated observation date, without any explanation of that, nor why it should be considered the last time Roadster was seen, at least my answer is sourced, which was stipulated in the original question for precisely this reason.
However, there is an explicit statement in Solution #10 of JPL's Horizons ephemeris for Roadster:
TRAJECTORY:
This trajectory is based on JPL solution #10, a fit to 364 ground-based
optical astrometric measurements spanning 2018 Feb 8.2 to March 19.1
Last observation that I can find mentioned but haven't found any documentation of is 19-Mar-2018.
So there should be a documented sighting around 2AM 19-Mar-2018 UTC reported somewhere! That doesn't mean it's the last, any observation after 27-Mar-2018 would not be documented in Solution #10, so this is not a good source for the answer. The dimming rate is slow enough that further observations are possible, just less likely.
Screen shots (click for full size):
add a comment |Â
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Using the information from this answer the last actual documented sighting of Roadster (2018-017A) that I can find is given in DASO circular 0567 on 2018/02/22.35017
Last observation that I can find documented is 22-Feb-2018.
While the other answer shows displays the date of an orbit solution, and in comments tries to link that to an estimated observation date, without any explanation of that, nor why it should be considered the last time Roadster was seen, at least my answer is sourced, which was stipulated in the original question for precisely this reason.
However, there is an explicit statement in Solution #10 of JPL's Horizons ephemeris for Roadster:
TRAJECTORY:
This trajectory is based on JPL solution #10, a fit to 364 ground-based
optical astrometric measurements spanning 2018 Feb 8.2 to March 19.1
Last observation that I can find mentioned but haven't found any documentation of is 19-Mar-2018.
So there should be a documented sighting around 2AM 19-Mar-2018 UTC reported somewhere! That doesn't mean it's the last, any observation after 27-Mar-2018 would not be documented in Solution #10, so this is not a good source for the answer. The dimming rate is slow enough that further observations are possible, just less likely.
Screen shots (click for full size):
Using the information from this answer the last actual documented sighting of Roadster (2018-017A) that I can find is given in DASO circular 0567 on 2018/02/22.35017
Last observation that I can find documented is 22-Feb-2018.
While the other answer shows displays the date of an orbit solution, and in comments tries to link that to an estimated observation date, without any explanation of that, nor why it should be considered the last time Roadster was seen, at least my answer is sourced, which was stipulated in the original question for precisely this reason.
However, there is an explicit statement in Solution #10 of JPL's Horizons ephemeris for Roadster:
TRAJECTORY:
This trajectory is based on JPL solution #10, a fit to 364 ground-based
optical astrometric measurements spanning 2018 Feb 8.2 to March 19.1
Last observation that I can find mentioned but haven't found any documentation of is 19-Mar-2018.
So there should be a documented sighting around 2AM 19-Mar-2018 UTC reported somewhere! That doesn't mean it's the last, any observation after 27-Mar-2018 would not be documented in Solution #10, so this is not a good source for the answer. The dimming rate is slow enough that further observations are possible, just less likely.
Screen shots (click for full size):
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